Interrupt!

RantWoman wonders what it was like for all the early Quakers who showed up at others' worship services and interrupted the proceedings and began preaching their version of the Gospel.

Holy Crap point number 1! RantWoman is a little afraid there are some traits that exactly parallel others' complaints about RantWoman in meetings:

Jumping in without waiting to be recognized. RantWoman is thinking that the number of clergy willing to recognize most of the valiant 60 was not that high. RantWoman is thinking of leadings to speak being called quaking.

Refusing to let go What if George Fox had just made an asterisk about his views of oaths? Would that have made room in a LARGE number of jurisdictions in the US for the option to affirm instead of swear? Calls about carrying a concern arise yea even in our 21st century!

Holy Crap point number 2, speaking of jurisdictions, swearing, then there is Interpreting! Again with the job necessities

Jumping in without waiting to be recognized.Suppose RantWoman is doing one-way simultaneous interpretation, for example community interpreting at a meeting, if the person RantWoman interprets for wants to ask a question, the interpreter HAS to interrupt. Sometimes the interpreter HAS to interrupt for other reasons but definitely without waiting to be recognized.

Refusing to let go which in RamtWoman's mind exists in close proximity with make a really big deal of things that look small to others. Refusing to let go is a VALUABLE trait when one is called to be an ally to the oppressed or when one is called to ensure that Friends from other countries can all be linguistically present in conversations. Another easy interpreting example RantWoman can think of is interpreters demanding to get documents in advance and having to hold the line HARD sometimes. Come to think of it... RantWoman has a blog post about this topic but is not going to link it here only because she can hear her readers going "No, No, NOT another digression to distant experience and alien realities." For the time being RantWoman is already doing more than well enough about making others be present with alien realities just with Meeting while blind.

Holy Crap point number 3! RantWoman can exactly identify items from her very own blogs where she does the very vexations behaviors in question, and to salubrious effect to boot!

Jumping in without waiting to be recognized.
http://rantwoman.blogspot.com/2011/06/say-word-accessibility.html

RantWoman is unclear whether she was recognized the first time she spoke; she definitely was not recognized a second. Even worse, RantWoman jumped in about a topic she had jumped in about last month at the same meeting, adding another topical detail on the same theme as last month. IN Quakerese, this might be called carrying a concern; this meeting has no other Quaker regulars that RantWoman knows of so the behavior is probably just called "give it a rest." RantWoman is amused to reflect that the person who chairs the meeting in question ALWAYS thanks members of the public, including RantWoman for our comments, no matter how insistent or meandering. What a welcome contrast to the streams of what keeps sounding to RantWoman like "shut up" messages in connection with a certain committee.

Refusing to let go, well actually both jumping in without being recognized and refusing to let go.
http://rantwoman.blogspot.com/2009/01/death-by-powerpoint-part-n1.html


Holy Crap Point 4. These exact challenging behaviors are completely necessary in the world of Meeting while blind.

Jumping in without waiting to be recognized.
At the blind consumer group RantWoman belongs to, people tend just to speak up and even interrupt each other. No one minds. No one is of offended, even when the person leading the meeting is partially sighted or there is a comparatively sighted spotter helping recognize people. Discussion even sometimes wanders a little between topics, but the group still maintains decent discipline about time and about clearly recording decisions.

Refusing to let go,
RantWoman is just going to give in and have a tirade here. One of the characters in RantWoman's Charm School melodrama HAS HIS JOB because of a lot of people who carried a concern and carried a concern and carried a concern and lobbied and lobbied and sued and sued and checked and verified and MAYBE sometimes include accessibility in their must-have technical requirements. This Friend has his job because the technical tasks arising from all the legal requirements that came from all that refusing to let go need endless watchful attention. This Friend DOING his job will not fix all the problems out there to carry a concern about in this domain. There will still be plenty of crap software for blind people to break and plenty of concerns for RantWoman to carry, but there is no way in RantWoman's understanding of equality and Quaker integrity that RantWoman is going to leave this carrying a concern thing at home in connection with a certain committee! Maybe RantWoman should stop even pretending that "charm school" is an applicable concept!