Showing posts with label Clerking. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Clerking. Show all posts

Wednesday, July 29, 2026

Unity? Sense of the Meeting? Consensus?

1. The SENSE OF THE MEETING at NPYM's annual session is clearly to go forward in steps to affiliate with Friends General Conference. This was not by a long shot only RantWoman's doing, but RantWoman is clear in her Light two years ago to listen to a Friend from Missoula and Friends were well-led in two years of discernment over a topic that first arose 20 years ago.


2. It does NOT seem to RantWoman that the room was at unity since one Friend spoke unambiguously about not being in unity with the movement but also not wanted to be recorded as a separate voice. RantWoman is going to risk mishearing this Friend's concern based on what RantWoman knows of this Friend's Light: the specific concern expressed was about Friends getting drawn too much into themselves. 

One Friend noted that FGC does have space for dialogue among the many strands of Quakers. RantWoman is not clear how that point might speak to the Friend who spoke and who has strong ministry beyond the bounds of Quakers but RantWoman did not jump up and down about nuances not expressed in the room when minutes were edited.

RantWoman somewhat shares this Friend's concerns since RantWoman is also called to be a Quaker presence in many spaces where that is challenging. It is not always clear to RantWoman whether another Quaker project is where she is most called to spend energy. RantWoman is also VERY grateful to Friends in a writing workshop through FGC who just held the space one time when RantWoman just needed to sob about very visual metaphors.


3. Friend have spoken with great respect about FGC anti-racism work and youth resources


4. To RantWoman's ear one thing which helped the room find unity was clear statements from two Friends about how FLGBTQC and in particular Friends' space for transgender concerns supported them in important conversations with loved ones about life experience and transgender realities.


5. RantWoman very much appreciates voices from FGC present in person and on Zoom to up hold the Clerk.  RantWoman also appreciates many FGC resources. 


6. One of these days, RantWoman is going to summon "Dial-a-Tirade" about Quaker books with no audio book options. Quakers have to get in line, though. The blind author of a book about non-drivers also had to do extra steps and the audio version of a book aimed at lots of people with disabilities appeared months after the print edition of the book appeared. And if Quakers have to wait in line about this particular sample of RantWoman "good trouble," OH WELL. RantWoman will though start with steps to figure out whether any of Mateo Hansen's books are available in alternate formats.


7. Friends should all celebrate: Quaker capacity for public word-smithing is alive and well and the questions of unity, unity with spirit, sense of the meeting, and consensus thrive as a zone where Quakers are very good at the local version of angels dancing on the head of a pin. RantWoman as a former Recording Clerk also always holds in the Light the person brave enough for public editing.

Monday, December 11, 2023

Weighty Friend's passing with Nashville Jam "I'll Fly Away"


It's not really RantWoman's place to announce the passing of the Weighty Friend RantWoman learned of this morning.

And the video above is probably neither the deceased Friend's preferred genre nor particularly Quaker theology

So please trust RantWoman:

--The video is MUCH less Bad Friend than either another tune that wandered into RantWoman's head the suggestion RantWoman received when seeking the wisdom of another Friend to deal with the first Bad Friend moment.

--The death announcement mentioned the deceased Friend being clear to be DONE with medical treatments so flying away from one's body seems entirely reasonable to RantWoman.

--The Friend is a weighty Friend partly because of being a strong Quaker woman in many different venues.

May this Friend rest in peace, may we hold the Friend's family and loved ones particularly close, and may there be arms and legs to carry her efforts forward.


Friday, July 22, 2022

Composting Ouches Memorial version

Warning: RantWoman is in full curmudgeon adult who definitely does not yet have her whole act together mode. When RantWoman was new to worshipping among Friends, RantWoman found it reassuring that adults her parents' age did not fully have their acts together: RantWoman figured there would be space to figure out her own act guiltfree. RantWoman is humble about how her grace has frayed. Blame the pandemic? Blame the previous administration? Blame looming climate catastrophe?


RantWoman just write what you came here to write.


Pssst. Junior Friends, 


RantWoman heard your queries. Well RantWoman heard them once. But Oops, RantWoman forgot  to proclaim as loudly as possible everywhere that SCREENSHARE IS NOT ACCESSIBLE. Please either put in the chat or have a link in the chat. The point: RantWoman has a mind like sieve and what is going to stick there is highly variable. RantWoman remembers an inquiry about whether Friends have ever heard a much younger Friend speak in worship. Yes, VERY rarely and RantWoman always silently applauds when it happens. RantWoman also remembers an inquiry about how to learn from the experiences of older Friends.


RantWoman generally recommends not waiting around for someone to die. That said, Memorial minutes can be a wealth of things to remember.


RantWoman recommends This year's memorial minutes as one place to start


Three minutes stick out even though RantWoman also had words for others.


Judith Reynolds Brown whose memorial minute seems not yet to have made it either to the NPYM site or to the Western Friend Memorials page , the intrepid discerner of capacity from Nominating Committee who first persuaded RantWoman that she should take on the role of recording clerk.


Bill (William H) Matchett, the clerk of UFM when RantWoman first served as Recording Clerk.


RantWoman has decided not to name the next person she wants to uplift because of the nature of the message that a Friend brought during Annual Session Meeting for Memorials. Friends agreed that this Friend was "wired differently" and offered several accounts of the intensity that brought. One Friend also acknowledged as a Junior Friend teasing the deceased Friend in a way that was probably hurtful. There is no place in "Oops Ouch Whoa" land to put the comment "Gee, nice of you to say so now that the Friend is DEAD."


The names of two more Friends, former Junior Friends who died much too young came up in a subsequent worship along with the comment that they were well loved and other Junior Friend peers were able to walk with them through some painful and difficult situations. Through the miracle of worshipful composting, RantWoman in the space of a few hours went from "that's nice but RantWoman's experience of Baptist Sunday School was nothing like...and RantWoman might have been too much of a nerd to fit in." to "Ohhhh, maybe the Junior Friends have some magic some of the adults really really need help seeing." MAYBE


Stay tuned anyway because RantWoman has other OUCHES to compost.

Wednesday, March 9, 2022

Meeting Facilitation Mean to Read List and book launch bakeoff

"Criticize to lift up, not to tear down"
RantWoman has a versatile God who gets things done LOTS of ways.


Presenting RantWoman's Meeting Management Meaning To Read (in spite of) book launch bake off featuring two authors RantWoman basically esteems.

Call it Clerking and Quaker Process. Call it Meeting Facilitation. The topic is on RantWoman's mind.

A book trailer, afflicted by an all too common sin


What's wrong with this picture? Hint: for one thing just turn off your video.





A whole book launch video for 

Sacred decisions: consensus in faith communities by Marcia J Patton and Nora J. Percival.



RantWoman really likes:
--Quakers in contexts with other faith communities
--Faith Leaders of color with speaking parts
The book has only made it to RantWoman's mean to read list so maybe the book mentions more about Quaker accountability and support practices than came up in the book launch video. Well maybe.

A treat for readers who read this in time to sign up.

 The UFM worship and ministry committee is offering a two-hour virtual workshop on Quaker decision making, Saturday, March 5, 10:00 – 12:00https://zoom.us/j/2065476449.  What is Quaker process? We rely on it to make all the group decisions necessary to maintain our  UFM community and direct its activities. Yet we don’t often discuss in detail what it actually is, and many of us would have a hard time describing it accurately. Most unfortunately, our collective inattention to the requirements and procedures of the process has led to some regrettable interactions and difficult situations. Let us, as a community, recommit to learning how to use Quaker process well. Join us for a Zoom-based time of learning and discussion about the nuances, challenges, and miracles of Quaker process. This session will be facilitated by Nora Percival, co-author of Sacred Decisions: Consensus in Faith Communities.  This workshop will be valuable for all members of the UFM community regardless of level of experience with the Quaker business process.  The Zoom meeting will open at 9:45 and the program

Please forgive RantWoman for wondering, will there be any exclamations of "there is no one by that name in the NPYM directory?"


A small offering of accessibility tips Zoom hosts often don't think to share.

just for people who are tired of chasing a mouse cursor around a screen.

On a dial-in phone:
*6 to mute and unmute
*9 to raise and lower hand

On a PC (Equivalent functions on a Mac start with Cmd or Cmd Shift, RantWoman is not sure which)
Alt A mutes / unmutes
Alt V turns video on and off
Alt Y raises and lowers the digital hand
Alt H opens and closes the chat window
Alt U opens and closes the participants list

And to enlarge the captions, find the up arrow next to the CC icon. Up arrow once to Subtitle settings and hit enter. At the top of the window that opens up there is a line with a blue dot on the far left. Either click on the dot and drag it along the line till the font is the desired size OR just click on the line and move the blue dot with left and right arrows. Hit escape when you are done to go back to the Zoom screen.


Monday, February 28, 2022

Clerking with Joy and Confidence: Ben Lomond Online Workshop

 

CLERKING with JOY & CONFIDENCE  with Barbara Babin and Friends    ONLINE

March 3 to April 7, 2022 Thursdays at 6:30 p.m.

REGISTER HERE

Clerking with Joy and Confidence is for all Friends with an interest in Quaker process, meeting for business, and deepening their connection with the Divine.  It is for current and aspiring presiding clerks, recording clerks, committee clerks, and everyone else who is holding the clerks and Friends discernment processes in the Light. 

In this workshop we hope to support those currently serving as clerks and to inspire others to consider how they might take up leadership roles in their meetings and how they might lovingly support those growing into leadership roles.  By drawing on the experiences of experienced clerks as well as sharing with one another in small groups, we will look at the real joys and challenges of clerking.  Participants will receive practical strategies, resources, and tried-and-true processes that can help business meetings and committee meetings run more smoothly.  Topics for the six sessions will include: What is clerking with joy and confidence? What do we mean by unity? Laying the groundwork for unity; Seeking unity together; When things go sideways; and new ways for these days.

Barbara Babin, facilitator Barbara has served as clerk of several monthly, quarterly, and yearly meeting committees and has co-facilitated several clerking workshops. She has been presiding clerk of Palo Alto Friends Meeting, Redwood Forest Friends Meeting, and College Park Quarterly Meeting.  With a passion for supporting spiritual growth in young people, she has accompanied teen trips to El Salvador, has served as an elder for Spring Camp, and has served on various children/teen program committees.

FEES

SCHEDULE



Tuesday, November 24, 2020

Pandemic Property Issues and socks

Featured tours on Planet RantWoman this season are on the theme "Peculiar Gratitudes."


Today's example: RantWoman is glad the 50 and then, after "de-intensification," 30  who formerly used rented space ... now have their own hotel rooms courtesy of the city. RantWoman is sorry it took a massive COVID outbreak at the overnight shelter downstairs. RantWoman is sorry for the financial hit toMeeting and RantWoman is holding in the Light a number of other concerns..


 The back story: RantWoman one evening was browsing positive test results on a county website for various homelessness services providers. RantWoman noticed that there were two unspecified locations operated by the agency operating the shelter in the Meeting basement. Both locations had double-digit numbers of positive tests, though RantWoman did not register the number of hospitalizations. RantWoman decided just to bite her tongue and curl up any email fingers. RantWoman cannot say she is sorry that public health officials decreed that there is no way to make the space safe right now. 


Colors!
Tree leaves Rain

Next peculiar gratitude: RantWoman is very grateful, despite sever philosophical quibbles, that the other agency renting the basement is part of a holiday new sock drive. RantWoman is thinking of RantBrother and some no-one can fix issues and how much getting him the right donations seem to matter. RantWoman realized her task is to STFU about philosophy and bigger dimensions of problems right now. If socks are what is needed and socks are what people can give, RantWoman needs to STFU about a whole bunch of quibbles and just get out of the way.


Peculiar gratitudes part 3.

 The following posts came to RantWoman's mind and search engine wile thinking about the shelter situation above. 
http://rantwomanrsof.blogspot.com/2017/07/diligence.html

RantWoman still thinks she was asking reasonable questions; RantWoman would have been thrilled if the questions had come out of anyone else's mouth. RantWoman recalls a conversation with someone who, RantWoman pretty sure was not at the business meeting documented above something like "yeah, it seems like we are getting pretty intensely into homeless services." All RantWoman could say: "I am totally unsurprised.

https://rantwomanrsof.blogspot.com/2017/09/stewardship-due-diligence.html


https://rantwomanrsof.blogspot.com/2018/01/light-dawns-thought-bubbles-at-least.html

Seattle Magazine article including app-based help channels

Sunday, October 4, 2020

Clerking, Come to Think of it, with Digressions

 Clerking…Come to think of it….

Readers aware that RantWoman is conducting a month-long binge blog are invited to meditate particularly on how the topics below relate to National Disabilities Employment Awareness Month, #NDEAM, #NDEAM2020, Pedestrian Safety Month #PedestrianSafetyMonth, and Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Please be assured, RantWoman can get there easily though not concisely!


Think Better-run Meetings for Business. Think minutes that reflect actual clear instructions to committees.Think how principles of inclusion can make both workplace and Meeting for business saner.

Think the focus skills one acquires fitting public testimony into the time boxes prescribed.

Think RantWoman's REPEATED offers to clerk short-term activities so people do not have to commit to a whole year.

Think RantWoman AGAIN being tempted to put on some kind of SuperWoman cloak and needing to be ....

Lexicography note: Clerking is Quakerese for "meeting facilitation."

Digression They also serve who know bookkeeping.

RantWoman is meditating about some recent meeting experiences.

One was a Meeting for Business. Some small moment of bookkeeping clarity came up while Friends were reviewing minutes. Only one person in the room noticed. RantWoman would be happier actuall if there were more people in the room who both have bookkeeping skills and have the clarity to stand and asked to be recognized when small corrections need to be made.

 

Another moment: a board meeting for a blindness nonprofit. RantWoman was THRILLED by the precision with which the young blind treasurer articulated the different bookkeeping issues coming up in the discussion. It’s not just that the treasurer is competent and articulate. This thrill is also because RantWoman is REALLY bad at “clerical speed and accuracy.” Being a good bookkeeper requires a lot of both of those things. RantWoman is permitting herself to be awed though by the work being done by a blind person. RantWoman imagines that good skills of blindness and experience with screen reader technology are part of the picture.

 

Another Moment: a b was a Meeting for Worship for Business. Matters of bookkeeping and process were coming up. The clerk was thinking of moving forward with the initiative. RantWoman is articulate, overeducated and certain she is entitled to offer her opinion. From the discussion, it was clear that the matter needed to be held over. As RantWoman considers issues, though, the POINT of the discussion was to arrive at some sense of the concerns from those present and either implicit or explicit instructions from Business Meeting to the committees following up. RantWoman realized she had already spoken many times. RantWoman decided instead of speaking, she just needed the rest of the room to articulate its concerns, but another infamous RantWoman email was born. RantWoman spoke of some experiences. When exasperated feedback came back, RantWoman APPRECIATED the immediacy and basically told the two people she addressed that she trusted them to use her words as they were led.


Digression No. 2. Care of Community. Is RantWoman just over the top again?

The last Business meeting referenced above was also considering revising the community email policy. RantWoman has two twitches and she has little basis for having an opinion specifically about this Meeting. 


First, RantWoman restated her concern that for notices like announcements of death or pastoral care moments such as medical issues, tolerating reply/all can help people see how the community is connected. RantWoman especially appreciates this because it is so hard for her to connect with people in the first place. RantWoman remembers a moment when the Clerk decided RantWoman's concern was covered by one piece of wording. RantWoman can live with that thought but is now wondering whether she should have pushed a little harder to have her point documented in minutes. For now, RantWoman can live with articulating her concern herself in her own words and feeling disappointed at the lack of enthusiastic embrace from others but grateful at least to be heard by several people instead of being told that one person decided on her behalf.. 

Second, RantWoman expressed a wish that there be explicit mention in the email policy that the clerk would follow up on troubling things that might come up in email. Examples in RantWoman's weirdo mind including indications of family trouble or reactions to, say, weird messages in worship  Again, at least RantWoman said her piece and people seemed to get it, but RantWoman's wish for more explicit wording did not happen. RantWoman will live with that.


Clerking

Once upon a time, long long ago, maybe around the time of RantWoman's midlife vision meltdown in 2004, RantWoman was sitting in a meeting for an NPYM body. Discussion arose about the annual practice of picking two people from the Yearly Meeting to Philadelphia to learn clerking from a weighty Friend. RantWoman realized that round trip airfare and lodging cost about the same no matter which direction one starts out. RantWoman suggested that perhaps the budget could be used to fly the weighty Friend west and that it would go further if many people could learn clerking skills at once. 

Lo, the idea took root and perhaps the next summer Weighty Friend came to WA and held a clerking workshop before Annual Session. Interest was considerable. RantWoman of course was interested but was not selected to participate. RantWoman half minded / half did not mind. RantWoman had not acquired some needed technology. Nor had RantWoman fully learned skills such as asking for reasonable accommodations such as having copies of handouts in advance. Finally, RantWoman had not really begun to think specifically either about a whole basket of "blind person in meetings issues or about what the term "reasonable accommodations:: needs to mean around her. 

In the next while, RantWoman served as co-clerk of Hospitality Committee, a role RantWoman was not really suited for. Plus RantWoman's co-clerk did a good chunk of the work, and recruiting people to make coffee after worship turned out to happen even if it would have gone better with more attention.

Comes along 2012 and two Weighty Friends from RantWoman's meeting offer a clerking workshop. RantWoman attended. After the workshop, RantWoman emailed the Weighty Friend who flewin from the East the last time a clerking workshop occurred. RantWoman asked whether to his knowledge he had ever clerked a meeting with a blind present. He wrote back "No." RantWoman did not think to ask about any other disability!

between 2011 and 2019 RantWoman has thought a lot about blind person in meetings issues because of going to many different meetings. RantWoman repeatedly invited members of the Care and Accountability committee to go with her to blindness events and to talk about blind person in meetings issues. The Care and Accountability committee declined this invitation. Two people who had roleson the Ad-Hoc Committee on Disability also went to blindness community events and had helpful observations but RantWoman was kicked out of Meeting before people got around to having a focused discussion about this topic!

RantWoman also requested electronic copies of handouts. RantWoman still has the handouts in her email archive. RantWoman looked them up when considering attending the most recent clerking workshop in fall of 2019. The handouts include a bibliography with a lot of materials that are either available only in print or out of print entirely. RantWoman's understanding of continuing revelation in the age of internet and apps would suggest maybe time to update the resource list! For instance, RantWoman herself owns a couple of topica ebooks.

In fall of 2019, another clerking workshop was held jointly sponsored by University Meeting and Salmon Bay meeting. RantWoman asked to attend. RantWoman asked to attend both out of a spirit of encouraging people to venture into this role and in hopes of educating people about blind people in meetings issues all at once. RantWoman's request was denied. So now, as RantWoman has written elsewhere, the workshop trained 50 new clerks. Awesome. Now every time RantWoman encounters a new clerk, RantWoman will have to educate them, one after another. RantWoman could easily find her way to the term "undue burden," EXCEPT what if...RantWoman really wants some less interested outsiders to clerk a couple threshing sessions about different topics. What if, what if, some of the new clerks get asked and part of the work process is figuring out how ot work with everyone's access needs...?

Friday, July 31, 2020

Mulch or Weedkiller: Signs


This mask was a birthday present. Who says family is not practical? The seam over the nose makes for interesting effects
Because why WOULDN'T 
the Mask of the Day help somehow?
Continuing a fine tradition of, um, Interesting moments in closing Meeting for Worship at Annual Session.

From a text exchange:

Did a deposit of mulch occur? Or weed killer?

Mulch I hope, though good mulch also helps prevent weeds.


Said deposit of mulch in question occurred in closing worship. RantWoman was in fact publicly eldering a former Presiding Clerk of Yearly Meeting. This does NOT mean things might have gone better in less public circumstances. As RantWoman wrote in an email awhile ago, we ALL need to pray..."

During worship a message that had several parts rose for RantWoman. RantWoman afterward sent an email to selected worshippers, all in Blind Copy, asking what they absorbed. RantWoman has gotten only one reply. RantWoman will specify more. 

First, RantWoman immediately wrote back "Thank you so much for a reply, any reply!"   It was sufficient. 

A bit of the reply to RantWoman's initial inquiry:
"Such an action would not have occurred to me.  I rather doubt that it occurred to the Spirit, either."

[Then there was something about timing and self-justification which RantWoman would rather rephrase as timing with a certain anniversary and signs that one must speak even if bringing up #ADA30 will come with way more tangle of what works and what does not than would fit into standard issue modern 1-hour Meeting for Worship.]. 

RantWoman's response:
Thank you for a response, any response.

Umm, extracting and elaborating on email reply

1. i have a versatile God who gets things done all kinds of ways. Versatile God was well-channeled for me at Annual Session by meanderings of Bible Study AND by both openings and space for acknowledgments in my worship
group. And a younger Friend's suggestion about where to start for Community Night were SO on point: Like I can ask for help and help that is actually helpful will come!
    I talked about all this a little with the Blind Prayer warriors (That honest to God is what this exercise in praying across difference calls themselves some of the time.) Sunday afternoon conference call prayer group and one person said she can tell a difference in my voice about the well-nourished part. Another spontaneously brought up a hat RantWoman wears outside Meeting that she cannot wear with integrity without trying (again? Trying souls about Meeting?) They were also too happy to help pray when I said I am sure I have pissed some people off. (So if RantWoman has pissed you off, please know that you are being prayed for, anonymously, by people you do not even know.)
   And I keep saying over and over several ways  how much I appreciate how hard many people are working to make virtual AS work.

2. I think it possible that people misapprehend nudgings of God but it would never occur to me to presume anything about what God is or is not telling another person.

(Not spoken:)3. Well, well, well, at least this Friend, when delivered of a problematic message did something besides tell everyone to ignore RantWoman's inquiry. So we are at least one up on the Pizza message aftermath, though Blind Copy also helped limit...)       

RantWoman's message had several threads.
Tales of a Tween and teenaged RantWoman anyone?
Thin Mints and box
as a Placeholder for past
and future children

Concern about the future, resonating with the part of a previous message RantWoman hoped to be able to resonate with. RantWoman suspects, based on the response she received   that this point did not make it out of RantWoman's mouth on the words that did emerge.

A point about clerking and blindness and figuring things out. It is AWESOME to have 50 new clerks but if RantWoman asks to participate, in HOPES of helping figure out some blind person in meetings issues and the message comes back that participation is not permitted, cough. RantWoman is NOT called to go away; RantWoman is offended by the implied message that dealing with blind person in meetings issues is either optional or unsolvable.

Why stop at only the former presiding clerk? RantWoman also meant to elder her entire Meeting over the only come to memorials issue.

Affirmation of RantWoman's faith in praying across difference. Affirmation x 2, one piece meaning to say to another Friend "I see you. I hear you," the other bluntly holding in the Light another younger Friend in the same vein.

The Queen of Spades
Bemused
RantWoman is grateful for:

--Private messages in Zoom chat, such an interesting enhancement over in-person Meeting for worship

--TWO previous Meetings for worship where RantWoman got to speak of matters on her mind related to gunfire, oh and a child safety policy themed topic about which MAYBE more separately.

--The Queen of Spades, the cat dominatrix chez RantWoman. Between regular cuddles from the cat and daily showers, RantWoman is deeply aware of touch even without hugs.

Thursday, June 11, 2020

End of Survey?

RantWoman needs readers to hold the content of this post in the Light. There is MUCH more to say but holding in the Light the points here is enough to start.

Speaking of surveys

In the rest of RantWoman's life, RantWoman is going around telling everyone who is building COVID related datasets and either talking to humans or doing surveys to please include the six questions used in the American Community Survey about does the responded identify as a person with disability x. The point is to build some ability to analyze disability-related info into the datasets organically. RantWoman recognizes that merging data might sometimes create overwrite issues. Tough. Ask the questions. Collect the data.

Other than that, RantWoman is also monitoring followup with results of a survey called Flattening Inaccessibility related to people who are blind or visually impaired. RantWoman darn sure thinks many problems surfaced int that survey also apply to people with other disabilities.

RantWoman is telling readers here about these points in faithfulness to a single standard of RantWoman. RantWoman also admits to being severely charm-challenged about a survey coming together at HER meeting. One point: books on discernment tend in RantWoman's experience not to interact with the subject of surveys. Somehow, RantWoman would also throw in the concept of continuing revelation. Furthermore, RantWoman is trying to choose carefully among a whole basket of reasons her head might explode.

With that as an intro, a survey coming soon from the AdHoc Committee on Disability.

For Once RantWoman goes for Less is More

Arguably, RantWoman should just leave the following meditations well enough alone. When has RantWoman ever been known to leave well enough alone. A survey will shortly occur. RantWoman thinks the survey is a fine place to start. Never mind what is meant by start. The task is create opening and closing statements. Today RantWoman was called to work on the closing statement, in terms of spiritual life and lived experience. Thank you in advance for sharing the journey including side excursions to Planet RantWoman.

PS RantWoman knows perfectly well that RantWoman's "help" is not great committee process. RantWoman begs pardon for the Grab the Blind Person and Bless them moment and will refrain from even mentioning yet another opportunity to go off about silencing.

Here is what RantWoman the closing statement said:

Thank you for sharing your experience!

The Ad Hoc Committee on  Disability believes our community is stronger when people with different bodies and minds are able to be fully present and safe. We strive to create space so that our community can
grow and learn together, can speak openly of needs and discomforts, and can learn how better to live together. We hope this provides people who worship with us better access to University Friends Meeting’s physical spaces, social spaces, worship and spiritual life.The project will provide Meeting opportunities to learn about legal requirements and other important concepts related to accessibility, inclusion, allyship, spiritual accompaniment, disability justice and words describing the shared experience of spiritual journeys together.

If there are resources you find especially valuable, the Ad-hoc committee invites you to share them. We look forward to working together towards accessibility, disability justice and a stronger community.

[URK: RantWoman's substantial edits omit any reference to specific Quaker testimonies. And RantWoman is sharing the current editorial bramble bush out of her own sense of integrity. Ummm]


Please hold tenderly RantWoman's urge just to go off! Please also bear with the editorial markings mess

The part RantWoman suggests just eliminating [with comments in square brackets] Where things started, after RantWoman suggested moving the text from the beginning to the end of the survey.

Thank you for sharing your experience!

Read on for more about what disability means to our committee...

The basic work of the committee is access.
[Um, no, that is not how RantWoman remembers the minute creating the committee]

 The Ad Hoc Committee on Disability "Legally, the Americans with Disabilities Act applies.

[um,FINALLY! on one hand, after 15 years that RantWoman can remember, with almost NO mention that RantWoman can remember of any legal standards! On the other hand, this is WAY too simplistic. Understanding which laws apply to different situations needs to be part of the community's work.]  

believes our community is stronger when people with different bodies and minds are able to be fully present and safe. We strive to understand what needs you have, and what could be done to allow you more access to University Friends Meeting’s physical spaces, social spaces, worship and spiritual life.The project will provide Meeting opportunities to learn about legal requirements and other important concepts related to accessibility and inclusion.

[RantWoman appreciates that this earlier version of her wording made it this far. RantWoman also appreciates the updates]

This stuff will make RantWoman's eyes glaze over--and RantWoman has a pretty high tolerance for such writing. RantWoman also thinks it will severely turn off people who approach problems differently.

[RantWoman is VERY relieved: an even earlier draft included something about capitalism. RantWoman has multiple opinions about capitalism but tartly notes that some kinds of disabilities pose the same challenges for employers deeply steeped in capitalism as for employers wanting to abolish capitalism. RantWoman recognizes that this point, like all of the verbiage below is WAY too much for a dabble one's foot in survey.]

Look. RantWoman is not just about disability justice. RantWoman is about praying and worshipping together across difference. RantWoman is about spiritual accompaniment, allyship. RantWoman needs to start there and might or might not get to the verbiage below, for one thing if she has to spend too much time being gaslighted about lived experience.]

Eyes Glaze over save for next steps
But access isn’t the end of the conversation. Disability justice[12]
includes ending internalized, institutional, and systemic discrimination
against disabled people; upsetting all the interconnected systems of
oppression; and bringing disability analysis of bodies, minds, and
interdependence to all social justice work.[23] As a spiritual community
that intends to uphold “that of God in every one,” both accessibility and
disability justice resonate with our testimonies of integrity and equality.

Our society consistently devalues physical or mental deviance from
“normality.” The shame of failing to live up to social standards means that
talking about disability is somewhat taboo,[31] despite significantly
shaping our morality, our relationships, and our own conceptions of
self-worth.

There is incredible diversity within the disabled community, e.g.:
ADD/ADHD, addiction, anxiety, autism, bipolar, blindness, deafness,
dementia, depression, developmental and/or intellectual disabilities,
dyslexia, epilepsy, eating disorders, hearing loss, learning disabilities,
mobility impairments, personality disorders, PTSD, traumatic brain injury,
vision loss – not to mention physical or mental issues due to acute or
chronic illness, injury, or even pregnancy. Many (perhaps most!) in the UFM
community have one or more of these, though we probably don’t all consider
ourselves ‘disabled.’ This committee conceives of ‘disability’ broadly,
erring on the side of inclusion, though we affirm your right to identify
yourself however you wish.
End of eyes glaze over part

Looking forward to working together towards accessibility and disability
justice!

Sunday, May 10, 2020

Minutes for hours and hours forever without end amen

RantWoman offers the following commentary in a spirit of being faithful to her Light. RantWoman is more concerned that the State of Society report contains what RantWoman considers several factual inaccuracies than she necessarily is with a great deal of what is in these minutes. However when RantWoman reached out to one of the report's authors, RantWoman received a request not to contact her further.

The long commentary here addresses a number of realities informed by RantWoman's experience with IT issues, RantWoman's perspective as a person with a disability, and by RantWoman's experience thinking about meeting process issues in many different contexts. RantWoman, humbly is called to be faithful to her Light.

RantWoman has changed all references to her own name and a reference to a newborn but has left all other names as is.

RantWoman uses the following font conventions:
Bold text is from the original draft, in bold for emphasis.
Bold Italic is a factual correction
Italic is commentary of fact and process provided by RantWoman. Most if it is not material for editing these minutes but is material that needs further consideration from Friends.



As annotated by RantWoman
In particular, RantWoman’s comments relate to a newcomer named Sara BridgeSong.
Sara is NOT RantWoman but does borrow RantWoman’s hands to type.  Sara is a composite character based on several people RantWoman has met and in some cases appreciated accessibility options for
In the world of technology, sometimes personae are created to illustrate or test principles or needs of particular user groups. RantWoman believes in a single standard of truth about why and how this testing is relevant both to other work and to the life of Meeting. RantWoman has been devoting considerable time to issues of inclusion for people with different disabilities in the burgeoning world of video conferencing. RantWoman is happy to go on further, but the annotations here are sufficient for the task of addressing minutes and perhaps of addressing the points they illustrate to RantWoman..

2020-04-01:         Opening Worship, Welcome, Introductions

[because of the social distancing requirements due to the COVID-19 pandemic, this meeting was conducted via HIPAA-compliant Zoom.  At the beginning, 51 people were logged in, including several log-ins of couples, and parents with children]
Clerk Kathy Hubenet read a quotation from Quaker theologian Marge Abbott, regarding how turning our hearts to one another allows the “vivid clarity of moving through darkness… We learn God through the love of others, which comes from God.”
What does RantWoman keep saying: “God keeps sending people with disabilities to live among us and asking us to figure out how to get along. People with disabilities are frequently called to be places where they are either explicitly or implicitly not wanted.” Humbly, RantWoman is wondering how letting someone’s difficulties be seen, even a hypothetical someone relates to the word “disruptive” below.
The clerk asked for the identity of two people who were recorded on the screen only by phone numbers; both were known to us.  The co-hosts of the online platform reviewed the mechanics of participating in a Zoom meeting:  adjusting what shows on the screen, allowing or blocking one’s visibility, and how to raise one’s hand.
We welcomed two first-time attenders:  David Zeiss, and Sara Bridgesong (see below.)

2020-04-02:         approval of minutes


2020-04-03:         Care and Counsel:  membership application by Mike Clarke

Dorsey Green, clerk of Care and Counsel, announced that C&C is trying to stay in touch with F/friends who live alone or who are particularly vulnerable to the pandemic.  Please let C&C know either if you are contacting one of these people, or if you would like to be contacted or have concerns about someone else:  “let’s make sure the net is holding all of us.”
RantWoman thanks the Friend who suggested sending RantWoman physical cards at a time when RantMom had tested positive for the Corona Virus and RantWoman was self-quarantining because of recent exposure that is eating dinner with RantMom. Neither RantMom nor RantWoman ever developed symptoms RantWoman was never tested and RantMom subsequently tested negative. RantWoman did not get back to the Friend in time to discourage both sending cards written in regular pen and sending cards to RantWoman’s mailbox across town from where RantWoman lives. RantWoman was spared the obligation to be grateful for cards she could read only with great difficulty because no one sent cards or email or phone calls. RantWoman is grateful for other connections.
Committee clerk then read a letter from Mike Clarke requesting membership in UFM, while noting that Mike’s second child, daughter R, was just born.  Norman Furlong read the report from the membership clearness committee, recommending in favor of accepting Mike Clarke.  Anyone with questions or concerns should contact Mike directly, while still respecting the timing of a father with a newborn.

2020-04-04:         State of the Meeting report

Ginger Boyle read us the second draft of the “State of the Meeting report, 2019.”  It had been modified somewhat after the first reading.  Discussion:
*  Nora Percival will not return to Kenya until sometime around fall ’20 to spring ’21, because Kenya is at the beginning stages of the pandemic.  Her ministry is not abandoned, but it is on hiatus.  There is no need to change the report to reflect this.  This led to a bit of discussion as to whether or not it is customary to name those personally involved in a ministry?  A Friend with decades of institutional memory said we have gone back and forth on this issue, though normally individuals are not named.  The report will be posted on the Yearly Meeting website, and so will be accessible to all of NPYM, and thus the people who are named should be willing to have their names distributed.  The people named in the report said that they are willing.
At this point in the discussion, first-time attender Sara Bridgesong posted on the platform’s chat box that she was “deeply unsettled” at the section regarding laying down the membership of a Friend (RantWoman) who was not named in the report.)  Sara said that the report needed to include a statement from (RantWoman) and that she could not accept the report without that inclusion.  The clerk asked Sara whether she had been involved in the many discussions leading up to this action? The platform moderator said that she had privately chatted with Sara, and “received a brush-off.” (Does the platform moderator recall Sara’s exact words?RantWoman does not remember who the moderator was but thinks this role may have been handled by someone who CONSISTENTLY silences RantWoman, takes many conversations to get points that seem really basic to RantWoman,  Also, Bear in mind that someone who can only type is at considerable speed disadvantage compared to people who talk.  The clerk asserted that Sara did not have standing, (interesting choice of words. Based on what?) and directed the discussion to proceed:
*  a Friend was concerned that, in mentioning a long-time attender at social hall, the person’s homeless status was mentioned first
*  Yearly Meeting’s Ministry and Counsel will be gathering these reports later in the summer, and is collecting ideas on how they can be shared, since there will be no in-person gathering this year
Two Friends expressed concern about difficulty agreeing to the content of the report based only on the oral presentation and asked to have the report held over so that copies could be emailed out.  Friends decided that since Quarterly Meeting was not occurring in person, there was time before annual session to lay over the report for another month.

A Friend then raised a concern:  having read over the chat offerings from Sara Bridgesong, she had formed the impression that Sara was actually (RantWoman.)  The clerk asked one of the platform hosts to exclude “Sara,” but the host demurred and asked if someone else could take this action?  A Friend privately checked Yearly Meeting records, and found no mention of anyone by “Sara’s” name. (RantWoman notes MANY reasons a person might not be listed in the NPYM directory) She was in agreement that “Sara” had no standing regarding the acceptance of the State of the Meeting report, but was hesitant to block her on-line participation.  Discussion:
*  Zoom participation is so that people can be included in our meeting, not so they can be disruptive.  “Sara” was not available on video or voice, only on chat.
RantWoman at this date does not remember what Sara was able to make clear in the chat the day of the Meeting. RantWoman is fairly certain that Sara made clear that the device she was connecting on does not have either a camera or a mic and therefore Sara could only “speak through the chat. RantWoman is unclear that there are explicit technological requirements to worship among Friends. Sara has also made clear to RantWoman in a separate blog post that Sara does not speak because of a birth defect she has not identified to RantWoman. Sara has made it clear that her current level of technology is adequate for her needs: besides the birth defect, Sara has a severe skin condition and avoids cameras.

*  a Friend shared discomfort with someone joining our Meeting without being open, since it is our way to be transparent, to show integrity, and to speak to one another. “Sara” was not willing to tell us who they are or what their connection to us might be. Annotation not appropriate for minutes: Besides the issue of typing speed, Guess what! Awhile ago RantWoman went to a wonderful Disability Justice event at the Gates Foundation. The event had an app participants could use to offer responses to the facilitator’s questions. At  first RantWoman HATED just hearing the words fed back and having no idea who offered them. However at some point it dawned on RantWoman that she needed to get over herself: the room contained two categories of people for whom the app was probably a godsend.  There were people who because of some or another disability might have a great deal of difficulty speaking at all or in a large group. There were also people of color who might be quite happy not having their pronouncements opined over from perspectives of privilege. So while the principles articulated by the Friend above might be perfectly obvious to her, they are not obvious to RantWoman. If RantWoman being faithful to her Light about this is “disruptive,” RantWoman has a versatile God who can probably find ways to handle.
If we were meeting face to face, we would not tolerate someone coming into the worship room and refusing to participate in Quaker process, nor would they have the weight to speak to an issue if they were unknown to us.
Refusing? Sara was TRYING to participate in Quaker process as well as her technology and the medium allowed. RantWoman also notes that she herself has in fact been TRYING to participate in Quaker process and can cite NUMEROUS moments where efforts to participate have been rebuffed.
See note above about technology and options for communications. Also, although neither Sara nor RantWoman tried at the time to make the point that as a blind person, RantWoman frequently has no idea who else is in a room with her.
*  another Friend shared the impression that “Sara’s writing style is very similar to(rantWoman’s), and that he (?) RantWoman is under the impression that this speaker was female.) believes they are the same person. IF the speaker was in fact male, RantWoman believes that he is a person with a long history of trying to avoid RantWoman’s efforts to talk about disability,
*  a Friend who was participating via phone sent out a chat text protesting the use of Zoom (RantWoman remembers this protest and actually concurs: by this point the conversation in chat had become quite confusing. RantWoman thinks this Friend also explicitly mentioned something about RantWoman but RantWoman does not recall his exact words. Because of past abusive behavior RantWoman frequently gets triggered around this Friend anyway. RantWoman has other experience where managing information flow between the chat and the main meeting gets easily muddled. In RantWoman’s experience outside Meeting, this problem can be handled with thoughtful process intervention by a Zoom host. RantWoman suggests that everyone give each other grace about a learning curve and try not to make hostile assumptions.
* we should lay over the report, and ask “Sara” to contact the clerk and give their identity. (RantWoman does not recall anyone providing a way to contact the clerk, something a newcomer would definitely appreciate. If the clerk believes the newcomer is RantWoman, RantWoman believes the Clerk knows how to reach RantWoman)
The clerk asked, should “Sara” be excluded at this time?
*  it is to be expected that the reluctant web host would be reluctant, since he is relatively new to UFM and is less familiar with all that we have considered vis a vis (RantWoman)
*  we don’t allow side conversations during business meeting, and we should not use chat for this purpose. Some quaker events occur with interpretation. If chat is a person’s only path to communicate, there should be process practices about how chat is used. Again, that is a process matter related to learning how to work with new technology and with specific communications needs.
*  we excluded (RantWoman) because her presence led to endless interruptions.
The clerk called for a ten-minute break.  When we came back together, we had a moment of silence.

2020-04-05:         Facilities:  proposal for the Operation Nightwatch shelter to expand operations during the pandemic

RantWoman appreciates the detail in the draft minutes and the care taken in formulating the discussion. RantWoman appreciates that many concerns on her mind were addressed.
At this point the clerk noted that someone had joined our meeting, with no visual image and the name “Fuego de Pablo.”  She asked the individual to self-identify, and when they did not, she asked one of the platform managers to deny this person access.  The individual then left the meeting.  We resumed discussion of the proposed minute:
RantWoman notes consistency about dealing with people who do not meet the clerk’s standards for self-identification. In contrast with the case of Sara Bridgesong though, there is no mention of anything to do with disability.

2020-04-06:         Closing Worship

We closed with a lengthy sharing of Joys and Sorrows, and then a period of silent worship.  After the close of meeting, a number of people remained on the platform, probably happy to see one anothers’ faces, and exchanged news and updates and more personal sharing.

Kathy Hubenet, Clerk
Amanda Franklin, Recording Clerk



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